Imposters + The Lloyds @ San Francisco, CA 1980-03-30

I removed the Sudden Fun set as it's officially released

 

IMPOSTERS https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dcnjugmX8VyYGT4Wc6gW5y-ZW9QjwuDP?usp=sharing

THE LLOYDS https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CIZrDC6xrAOYL9hAD5XyV87Ja83TcNua?usp=sharing

Impostors
Old Waldorf
San Francisco, CA
1980-03-30 (Sunday)

THTP Release 113

Recording chain:
Stage mics > splitter (split to house snake/SBD and TH snake) > TH dedicated snake >
Peavy MkII 12 channel mixing board (10 channels snake, 2 channels audience mics) >
AKAI GXC-570D Cassette Deck (Dolby B on) > TDK SA-90 tape

Archival Process:
1999: Sony TC-KA3ES > TDK SA-90 tapes playback (NO Dolby) > BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer (to clean up tapes) >
Tascam DA-30 DAT > HHb DAT-125 DAT tape
2002: HHb CDR-850 Professional CD Recorder (In real time) > HHb CDR74 Gold 100 year archival grade CDRs
2005: Transfered to HDD in AIFF file format

Dime release processing: AIFF Master Files > FFMPEG > 16 bit FLAC 8 > tagging, cover artwork, checksums.

Recorded, preserved, and master AIFF files provided by: Terry Hammer

Setlist:
01. Trouble
02. Better This Way
03. Inside My Head
04. Small Town Blues
05. Don't Get Mad (Just Get Even)
06. Sound On The Street
07. You
08. Time
09. Good Girls Are Hard To Find
10. Runaway

Length: 32:47

Band:
Dana Doss - guitar, vocals
John Schuster - bass, vocals
Johnny Campbell - drums

Notes:
* The band blows out the door on the first track, Trouble. High energy power pop. Good stuff.
* Note: This is NOT the backing band for Elvis Costello, "The Imposters". Note the spelling difference, and the fact that, well, these guys are from Sonoma, not the UK. They are also not the UK Surrey based cover band "The Impostors", nor any other band that is not them but has that name, or a similar one.

* About band: https://www.discogs.com/artist/1938284-The-Impostors-2
"The Impostors formed as a three-piece in Sonoma County (Somoma county is just north of San Francisco, above Marin County, which is over the Golden Gate Bridge from SF) in 1978. They built a strong following in the Bay area, playing alongside bands like Crime, the Avengers, Dead Kennedys and the Dils. Their first release was the "Night Time TV" EP on 415 Records, which was followed up in 1980 with the "Don't Get Mad" single on the same label.
1980 also saw the release of a compilation album called Alive! Rock City that featured two Imposters tracks. Then another song, "Sounds On The Street," appeared on a 1981 compilation called Rising Stars Of San Francisco. The band spent their time touring up and down the west coast and even made their way out to Texas, playing Austin and Dallas.
1983 marked the release of their first LP, Mask. Two songs from the album were released as a single. The A-Side, "Inside My Head," is an infectiously poppy track that is sure to get stuck inside your head, while the reggae-twinged flipside, "King Of America" sways more in the direction of "Watching The Detectives.
The record received heavy air play across the States, but the band ended up splitting in November of that year."

* When they sing about "Small Town Blues" they aren't kidding, Sonoma County was two counties up from San Francisco (Marin County, just North of the Golden Gate Bridge, then Sonoma County, a largely rural, small town county).

* 415 Records was Howie Klein's record label, and very influential in the early SF punk scene. Many of the groups you have heard so far, and many that are coming, released at least a single on 415 Records. 415 (The area code for San Francisco) Records was very influential in the early Bay Area punk days. Along with the Impostors, they put out Romeo Void, Red Rockers, Roky Erickson and the Aliens, the Uptones, the Offs, the Mutants, and many others.  
* More about 415 Records: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/415_Records
"Its name, pronounced four-one-five (not four-fifteen), was a play on both the telephone area code for the San Francisco area and the California penal code section for disturbing the peace (indeed, in some promotional material, the phrase "disturbing the peace" was written underneath the 415 logo). The label had a productive partnership with Columbia Records from 1981 until shortly before it was sold in 1989 to Sandy Pearlman, who retitled the label Popular Metaphysics.".

* Singles were the currency of early punk rock, and it's what the few stations that played this music (mostly college radio stations like Terry Hammer's KALX, Los Altos' KFJC, but also KSAN, the legendary 60s San Francisco station that was one of the earliest supporters of punk music on the commercial airwaves). Each of these small labels tended to focus on one style or feel of the flood of new artists that started in the mid 1970's around the world, so you could roughly know which style you liked, and buy new releases from a label without knowing the band. My local college radio station is where I first heard punk music, on a weekly show.

* Fun factoid: Berkeley Square popped up out of nowhere, and was very fancy and expensively designed compared to all the other active clubs that hosted punk/new wave shows. If I remember right, it had red vinyl padded walls. Rumor on the street was that the guy who ran it was related to some organized crime group or other, and that's where the money came from (possibly as part of a money laundering scheme). The club was unusually fancy for this era and type of music. I don't know if this rumor was true or not, but it was certainly what people believed who were around the scene.

* Band (during Small Town Girls): "I've got not prospects... I've got no monitors either!"

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No distribution in lossy formats!!
No selling!!
No bootlegging!!
No remastering!!
Yes sharing. Definitely share.

Support the artists when or if they play, and buy their records/merchandise.

Please correct any errors or oversights in this information in the comments section so the information can be as accurate as possible.

If you can find related materials like flyers, posters, ticket stubs, even photos, etc, please add them in a comment and I will add them to the main release folder, so that can be included on the next re-seeding. Every bit is welcome, and as I am time constrained on this project due to the amount of material, I cannot spend as much time on each release doing research as I would like, so if we can add to and improve the information and release contents during this series, that would be great.

Please make an effort to pick at least one of these THTP releases and keep it seeded for as long as you can, particularly the lesser known groups. That will really help out long term.

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About Terry Hammer and the THTP:

Someone put my feelings very well about these recordings in the following quote. I can't really improve on their words beyond noting that these recordings sound absolutely and utterly stunning, and I consider myself incredibly lucky to be able to present these to you here in their original, first generation, lossless hi-fidelity versions, for the first time ever.

"[These recordings were] recorded and preserved by collector/engineer Terry Hammer, for broadcast over the UC Berkeley station KALX and several others from the 1979 -1981 period. Anyone who spent a night at one of these clubs knows how chaotic the atmosphere was. That he was able to, not only get a decent feed from the sound mixing board, but was also able to get clean recordings was something of a miracle. And the fact this guy did it over and over again is pure dedication to the cause of preserving history for decades to come. Fortunately for everyone, he’s been making these gems of history available and their value as historic documents is inestimable. This is really exciting stuff and I am grateful for Terry’s foresight and deft skill."
src: https://pastdaily.com/2014/06/25/gang-four-live-american-indian-center-san-francisco-1980-nights-roundtable-concert-edition/

As Terry notes about the process of recording these shows: "Like all of my live recordings this was mixed direct to 2-Track Reel To Reel (and Cassette deck for backup and personal use) using headphones. Sitting in the club with the loud P.A. sound trying to drive the amp in my mixing board loud enough to hear what I was mixing.If you've ever been to a live concert,then,you know how loud it can be."

If you've ever been looking for an excuse to upgrade your sound system, these recordings certainly should provide you with some motivation, because they have incredible sound. And if you already have a quality sound system, you are in for a treat!! The audio goes straight to 20k hz, no losses I can detect. Due to the reality of tapes, even high end as used here, the low end starts at 47 hz.

And if you want to learn more about this incredible musical era, listen to the stuff you haven't heard, there are amazing gems in there.

Do we call these soundboards? Technically not precisely because this is not the house mix, these shows were mixed using a dedicated mixing board, with an additional 1 to 2 audience mics (1 for Mab because he needed 11 snake inputs), 2 at other clubs) in the mix. But I call it the Terry Hammer Tape Project (THTP) to make sure there is no doubt about the project's creator.

TECH:
Note that Terry made 2 master recordings (recording at the same time) when he mixed these shows live:
1: Reel to reel, for the radio stations:
Technics RS-1500 Reel To Reel (mostly TDK Audua L-1800 & LB-1800 tape with back coating or Scotch 206 / 207 with back coating. Maybe a few Maxell UD-XL). All the KALX shows went to KALX, they supplied the reel to reel tape.

2: For his own use, and as backup in case something happened to the reels:
AKAI GXC-570D Cassette Deck (Dolby B on) > TDK SA-90 tape

Terry isn't sure, but thinks the audience mics he used maybe were Electro Voice EV-DS35's.

Info: http://www.bbesound.com/products/sonic-maximizers/482i.aspx

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 - teetering


https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dcnjugmX8VyYGT4Wc6gW5y-ZW9QjwuDP?usp=sharing

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The Lloyds
Old Waldorf
San Francisco, CA
1980-03-30

THTP Release 28

Recording chain:
Stage mics > splitter (split to house snake/SBD and TH snake) > TH dedicated snake >
Peavy MkII 12 channel mixing board (10 channels snake, 2 channels audience mics) >
AKAI GXC-570D Cassette Deck (Dolby B on) > TDK SA-90 tape

Archival Process:
1999: Sony TC-KA3ES > TDK SA-90 tapes playback (NO Dolby) > BBE 462 Sonic Maximizer (to clean up tapes) >
Tascam DA-30 DAT > HHb DAT-125 DAT tape
2002: HHb CDR-850 Professional CD Recorder (In real time) > HHb CDR74 Gold 100 year archival grade CDRs
2005: Transfered to HDD in AIFF file format

Dime release processing: AIFF Master Files > FFMPEG > 16 bit FLAC 8 > tagging, cover artwork, checksums.

Recorded, preserved, and master AIFF files provided by: Terry Hammer

Setlist:
01. Attitude Check
02. Boys
03. Kill Me
04. All Alone
05. We Blew 'Em All Away
06. T.V.C.
07. (And That's Why) I Don't Want You Around
08. Tell Him

Length: 29:19

Band:
Lulu Lewis - lead vocals
Ronnie Jay - guitar
David Martin - lead guitar (?)
Dann DeShara - bass
Alan Thiele - drums

(The band member list is the best I could find, not sure about David)

Notes:
* The Lloyds - live at the Videowest Screen Test Benefit 1979:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv_S6U2WDrg
 Videowest - The Lloyds - Attitude Check - 1979:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=choh9zJ5B5o
* The Lloyds played the first 'New Music Night' at the I-Beam (up until then a 7 nights a week gay club), in the upper Haight district, in 1980-07-28. The I-Beam went on to host many of the country's top alternative music touring acts in the following years.
* The Lloyds would fall pretty solidly into the 'New Wave' side of the scene, but I could not find very much information about them beyond a few recordings they did, and some shows they played.

===========================================================

No distribution in lossy formats!!
No selling!!
No bootlegging!!
No remastering!!
Yes sharing. Definitely share.

Support the artists when or if they play, and buy their records/merchandise.

Please correct any errors or oversights in this information in the comments section so the information can be as accurate as possible.

If you can find related materials like flyers, posters, ticket stubs, even photos, etc, please add them in a comment and I will add them to the main release folder, so that can be included on the next re-seeding. Every bit is welcome, and as I am time constrained on this project due to the amount of material, I cannot spend as much time on each release doing research as I would like, so if we can add to and improve the information and release contents during this series, that would be great.

Please make an effort to pick at least one of these THTP releases and keep it seeded for as long as you can, particularly the lesser known groups. That will really help out long term.

===========================================================
About Terry Hammer and the THTP:

Someone put my feelings very well about these recordings in the following quote. I can't really improve on their words beyond noting that these recordings sound absolutely and utterly stunning, and I consider myself incredibly lucky to be able to present these to you here in their original, first generation, lossless hi-fidelity versions, for the first time ever.

"[These recordings were] recorded and preserved by collector/engineer Terry Hammer, for broadcast over the UC Berkeley station KALX and several others from the 1979 -1981 period. Anyone who spent a night at one of these clubs knows how chaotic the atmosphere was. That he was able to, not only get a decent feed from the sound mixing board, but was also able to get clean recordings was something of a miracle. And the fact this guy did it over and over again is pure dedication to the cause of preserving history for decades to come. Fortunately for everyone, he’s been making these gems of history available and their value as historic documents is inestimable. This is really exciting stuff and I am grateful for Terry’s foresight and deft skill."
src: https://pastdaily.com/2014/06/25/gang-four-live-american-indian-center-san-francisco-1980-nights-roundtable-concert-edition/

As Terry notes about the process of recording these shows: "Like all of my live recordings this was mixed direct to 2-Track Reel To Reel (and Cassette deck for backup and personal use) using headphones. Sitting in the club with the loud P.A. sound trying to drive the amp in my mixing board loud enough to hear what I was mixing.If you've ever been to a live concert,then,you know how loud it can be."

If you've ever been looking for an excuse to upgrade your sound system, these recordings certainly should provide you with some motivation, because they have incredible sound. And if you already have a quality sound system, you are in for a treat!! The audio goes straight to 20k hz, no losses I can detect. Due to the reality of tapes, even high end as used here, the low end starts at 47 hz.

And if you want to learn more about this incredible musical era, listen to the stuff you haven't heard, there are amazing gems in there.

Do we call these soundboards? Technically not precisely because this is not the house mix, these shows were mixed using a dedicated mixing board, with an additional 1 to 2 audience mics (1 for Mab because he needed 11 snake inputs), 2 at other clubs) in the mix. But I call it the Terry Hammer Tape Project (THTP) to make sure there is no doubt about the project's creator.

TECH:
Note that Terry made 2 master recordings (recording at the same time) when he mixed these shows live:
1: Reel to reel, for the radio stations:
Technics RS-1500 Reel To Reel (mostly TDK Audua L-1800 & LB-1800 tape with back coating or Scotch 206 / 207 with back coating. Maybe a few Maxell UD-XL). All the KALX shows went to KALX, they supplied the reel to reel tape.

2: For his own use, and as backup in case something happened to the reels:
AKAI GXC-570D Cassette Deck > TDK SA-90 tape

Terry isn't sure, but thinks the audience mics he used maybe were electro Voice EV-DS35's.

Info: http://www.bbesound.com/products/sonic-maximizers/482i.aspx

===========================================================
 - teetering

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1CIZrDC6xrAOYL9hAD5XyV87Ja83TcNua?usp=sharing